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Internet Research Task Force (IRTF) S. Dawkins, Ed.
Request for Comments: 7418 Huawei
Category: Informational December 2014
ISSN: 2070-1721
An IRTF Primer for IETF Participants
 Abstract
This document provides a high-level description of things for
Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) participants to consider when
bringing proposals for new research groups (RGs) into the Internet
Research Task Force (IRTF). This document emphasizes differences in
expectations between the two organizations.
Status of This Memo
This document is not an Internet Standards Track specification; it is
published for informational purposes.
This document is a product of the Internet Research Task Force
(IRTF). The IRTF publishes the results of Internet-related research
and development activities. These results might not be suitable for
deployment. This RFC represents the individual opinion(s) of one or
more members of the IRSG Research Group of the Internet Research Task
Force (IRTF). Documents approved for publication by the IRSG are not
a candidate for any level of Internet Standard; see Section 2 of RFC
5741.
Information about the current status of this document, any errata,
and how to provide feedback on it may be obtained at
http://www.rfc-editor.org/info/RFC 7418.
Copyright Notice
Copyright (c) 2014 IETF Trust and the persons identified as the
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This document is subject to BCP 78 and the IETF Trust's Legal
Provisions Relating to IETF Documents
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publication of this document. Please review these documents
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to this document.
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Table of Contents
1. Introduction and Scope . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2
2. The IRTF Is Not the IETF . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2
2.1. Research and Engineering . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3
2.2. Scope . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3
2.3. Time Frames . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3
2.4. Alternatives . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4
2.5. Process . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4
2.6. Charters . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4
2.7. Deliverables . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5
2.8. Completion . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5
3. Now That You Know What Not to Do . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5
4. Security Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6
5. References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6
5.1. Normative References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6
5.2. Informative References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6
Acknowledgements . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7
Author's Address . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7
1. Introduction and Scope
This document provides a high-level description of things for
Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) participants to consider when
bringing proposals for new research groups (RGs) into the Internet
Research Task Force (IRTF). This document emphasizes differences in
expectations between the two organizations.
IRTF RG guidelines and procedures are described in BCP 8 [RFC 2014],
and this document does not change those guidelines and procedures in
any way.
2. The IRTF Is Not the IETF
A number of proposals from experienced IETF participants for new IRTF
RGs have encountered problems because the IETF participants were
making proposals appropriate for the IETF, but not for the IRTF.
[RFC 2014] describes the origin of IRTF RGs but doesn't provide much
detail about the process, which is intended to be flexible and
accommodate new types of RGs. Lacking that detail, experienced IETF
participants fall back on what they know, assume that chartering an
IRTF RG will be similar to chartering an IETF working group (WG),
follow the suggestions in [RFC 6771] to gather a group of interested
parties, and then follow the suggestions in [RFC 5434] to prepare for
a successful BOF and eventually, a chartered WG.
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Both of these documents are excellent references for proposals in the
IETF, but their suggestions may result in a proposal that is almost
the opposite of what the IRTF Chair is looking for in a proposal for
an IRTF RG. The mismatches fall into some consistent categories, and
this document lists the ones that come up repeatedly.
The target audience of this document is IETF participants bringing
proposals to the IRTF.
It's worth noting that the IRTF Chair has substantial autonomy on
what RGs are chartered and how they reach that stage. The IRTF Chair
at the time of writing is Lars Eggert.
2.1. Research and Engineering
"To me, the fundamental outcome of research is understanding, and
the fundamental outcome of engineering is a product." - Fred Baker
In some ways, research is about a journey, and engineering is about a
destination. If a researcher answers a question in a way that opens
another question, that can be success. If an engineer keeps working
on a product without finishing it, that is usually a failure.
Research can be open-ended, while engineering can come to a stopping
point when the result is "good enough" -- good enough to ship.
"If it has to work when you're finished, it wasn't research, it
was engineering." - attributed to Dave Clark
2.2. Scope
IRTF RGs have a scope large enough to interest researchers, attract
them to the IRTF, and keep them busy doing significant work. Their
charters are therefore usually much broader than IETF WG charters,
and RGs often discuss different topics underneath the charter
umbrella at different times, based on current research interests in
the field.
IETF WGs are chartered with a limited scope and specific
deliverables. If deliverables and milestones are known, the proposal
is likely too limited for the IRTF.
2.3. Time Frames
IRTF RGs bring researchers together to work on significant problems.
That takes time. The effort required by a RG is likely to take at
least three to five years, significantly longer than IETF WGs
envision when they are chartered.
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2.4. Alternatives
IRTF RGs are encouraged to explore more than one alternative approach
to the chartered problem area. There is no expectation that the RG
will "come to consensus" on one approach. The RG may publish
multiple competing proposals as research produces results.
IETF WGs normally use the IETF consensus process (as described in
[RFC 7282]) to drive interoperable solutions into the market place.
That often includes reducing the number of approaches to something
manageable for an implementer, preferably one, whether that means
starting with an approach the WG participants agree on, or
considering alternatives with a view to picking one rather than
spending significant effort on alternatives that won't go forward.
The IRTF, as an organization, may also charter multiple RGs with
somewhat overlapping areas of interest, which the IETF tries very
hard to avoid.
2.5. Process
All IRTF participants have the obligation to disclose IPR and
otherwise follow the IRTF's IPR policies, which closely mirror the
IETF's IPR policies; in all other aspects, IRTF RG operation is much
less constrained than IETF WG operation.
Each IRTF RG is permitted (and encouraged) to agree on a way of
working together that best supports the specific needs of the group.
This freedom allows IRTF RGs to bypass fundamental IETF ways of
working, such as the need to reach at least rough consensus, which
IRTF RGs need not do. Therefore, the mode of operation of IRTF RGs
can also change over time, for example, perhaps becoming more like
IETF WG operation as the research the group has been progressing
matures.
2.6. Charters
The purpose of charters in the IRTF is to broadly sketch the field of
research that a group is interested in pursuing and to serve as an
advertisement to other researchers who may be wondering if the group
is the right place to participate.
IETF WG charters tend to be very narrow. They are intended to
constrain the work that the working group will be doing, and they may
contain considerable text about what the working group will not be
working on.
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2.7. Deliverables
There is no expectation that IRTF RGs publish RFCs, although many do.
Some IRTF research groups produce IRTF-stream RFCs, while others
produce Internet-Drafts that form the basis of IETF-stream RFCs, and
still others may deliver reports, white papers, academic journal
articles, or even carry out relevant high-level discussions that
aren't ever published but influence other research. IRTF RGs are
successful when they stimulate discussion, produce relevant outputs,
and impact the research community.
IETF WG deliverables tend to be specific protocol, deployment, and
operational specifications, along with problem statements, use cases,
requirements, and architectures that inform those specifications.
Almost all IETF working groups are chartered to deliver Internet
standards, which isn't an option for IRTF RGs.
2.8. Completion
IRTF RGs may produce the outputs they expected to produce when they
were chartered, but it also happens that researchers consider what
they've learned and start work on better solutions. This can happen
whether or not the research underway has been completed, and the
process can continue until the RG itself decides that it is time to
conclude or when the IRTF Chair determines that there is no more
energy in the group to do research.
IETF WGs will typically conclude when they meet their chartered
milestones, allowing participants to focus on implementation and
deployment, although the WG mailing list may remain open for a time.
3. Now That You Know What Not to Do
The current IRTF Chair, Lars Eggert, is fond of saying, "Just act
like an IRTF research group for a year, and we'll see if you are
one."
There are many ways to "act like an IRTF research group". [RFC 4440]
contains a number of points to consider when proposing a new RG.
Some possibilities include:
1. Identify and recruit a critical mass of researchers who can
review and build off each other's work.
2. Identify other venues that may overlap the proposed RG, and
understand what value the proposed RG provides beyond what's
already underway elsewhere.
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3. Hold a workshop to survey work that might set the stage for a RG
on questions of interest, perhaps in concert with existing
academic events.
4. If the proposed RG expects to have outputs that will ultimately
be standardized in the IETF, identify and recruit engineers who
can review and provide feedback on intermediate results.
But every proposed RG is different, so e-mailing the IRTF Chair to
start the conversation is a perfectly reasonable strategy.
4. Security Considerations
This document provides guidance about the IRTF chartering process to
IETF participants and has no direct Internet security implications.
5. References
5.1. Normative References
[RFC 2014] Weinrib, A. and J. Postel, "IRTF Research Group Guidelines
and Procedures", BCP 8, RFC 2014, October 1996,
<http://www.rfc-editor.org/info/RFC 2014>.
5.2. Informative References
[RFC 4440] Floyd, S., Paxson, V., Falk, A., and IAB, "IAB Thoughts on
the Role of the Internet Research Task Force (IRTF)", RFC
4440, March 2006,
<http://www.rfc-editor.org/info/RFC 4440>.
[RFC 5434] Narten, T., "Considerations for Having a Successful Birds-
of-a-Feather (BOF) Session", RFC 5434, February 2009,
<http://www.rfc-editor.org/info/RFC 5434>.
[RFC 6771] Eggert, L. and G. Camarillo, "Considerations for Having a
Successful "Bar BOF" Side Meeting", RFC 6771, October
2012, <http://www.rfc-editor.org/info/RFC 6771>.
[RFC 7282] Resnick, P., "On Consensus and Humming in the IETF", RFC
7282, June 2014, <http://www.rfc-editor.org/info/RFC 7282>.
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Acknowledgements
Thanks go to Lars Eggert, who became IRTF Chair in 2011 and has been
carrying this information around in his head ever since. Lars also
provided helpful comments on early versions of this document.
Thanks especially to Fred Baker for sharing thoughts about the
motivations of research and engineering that resulted in a complete
rewrite of Section 2.1.
Thanks also to Scott Brim, Kevin Fall, Eliot Lear, David Meyer, and
Stephen Farrell for providing helpful review comments, and to Denis
Ovsienko for careful proofreading.
Author's Address
Spencer Dawkins (editor)
Huawei Technologies
EMail: spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com
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PUBLICATION DATE: Saturday, December 13th, 2014
LEGAL RIGHTS: The IETF Trust (see BCP 78)
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